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Thu May 10, 2018 9:43 am by Rosie21

Hi I have been suffering for some years with this abominable pain. I have tried most of the systemic drugs , I asked specialists and Doctors if I could at least try a topical treatment but because this requires a special prescription have been refused Has anybody had a chance of trying these? Thank you I will try to put a link on to some of the research into Gabapentin Gel. Thanks.

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Putnams 'bony parts' cushion or Putnams 'Dr Huff' cushion - which is best?

Sat Aug 01, 2015 4:17 pm by Fielder

Hi everyone,

I'm a newbie.  I live in the UK.  

I'm trying to work out the best cushion to get for my vulvodynia.  I suspect that I could have pudendal nerve involvement (the aching and burning pain is from vagina to clitoris) and I have rectocele and some tailbone pain too.

I have seen some good reports on older threads regarding the Putnams pressure relief cushions....with some ladies …

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An absolute success story- please read!

Fri Mar 08, 2019 10:57 pm by Persevere1990

Dear All,

I posted on here back in March 2017 having just got a diagnosis of vulvodynia after a few months of relentless and acute pain. I was desperate, I was hurting, I was scared I would never know life without pain there again.

I tried creams, acupuncture, numbing gels, frozen pads, baths with various internet recommended concoctions- convinced myself I had lichen sclerosus, herpes, thrush- …

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Thu Feb 21, 2019 5:49 am by Jet227

hey, im 19, ive been struggling with this almost a year. The first week I became itchy I went in to check about a yeast infection another week later. I have been to 10 different doctors a total of about 15 appointments for this problem for the past 11 months. I have been tested for everything including having a biopsy. I was first told basically to just go home and use hydrocortazone, then I went …

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New member need advice please

Thu Feb 28, 2019 11:33 pm by PANDORA123

Hello, I have just been diagnosed with unprovoked vulvodynia. Im really scared and worried. It burns a lot and it hurts to sit down. I have been prescribed amitriptyle 10mg. Can anyone give me some hope that I can get better from this condition. Feeling low and depressed.

Thanks

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MonaLisa Touch

Fri Feb 08, 2019 7:35 pm by rl2091

Hi All,

I'm wondering if anyone has any experience with the MonaLisa Touch treatment for Vulvodynia? My pain started when I went on HRT(pill) for anxiety mainly and my pain abruntly stopped when I stopped HRT. However, when I started on the HRT patch (at my dr's suggestion), the pain returned and has never left. That was 7 years ago. I found MonaLisa Touch on the internet purely by accident …

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Diagnosed Recently

Tue Jan 08, 2019 3:55 pm by flissyg

Hi All,

I’m so glad I’ve found a place where there are others who understand how I feel!

So this is my story:-

I’m 36,  and 4 months ago, whilst innocently sitting in bed reading I experienced a very sharp stabbing pain in my clitoris. It last only a few minutes and then subsided as quickly as it came on. It put it down to “one of those things”.  The following morning I woke up …

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New and need advice and help

Wed Dec 05, 2018 3:26 pm by Cin124

Hi everyone,

About three months ago, I started having vaginal and vulval itching. Then, about two months ago, my vulva started to feel painful and look swollen, so I went to the doctor. I was tested for herpes, chlamydia, and gonorrhea which all came back negative. I also had to do a vaginal swab test and the only thing that came back positive was yeast infection. I was prescribed hydrozole …

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New here would very much appreciate advice at the end of my rope

Wed Jan 09, 2019 9:09 pm by Jma990o

This might be a little long but it's been such a long time I've even been able to talk about my problems openly thank you in advance for any helpful advice.
So ok I'm 24 I've been having this problem for over two years seen quite a few doctors and obgyns alike and nobody will take me seriously I have had a few utis and yeast infections and even bv once and this all started after one of the utis …

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Post  Justin777 Sun Dec 14, 2014 9:17 pm

Hi girls I recently discovered 'Vulvodynia' last month. How I came across it is ironic. In June of this year 2014 I took a hair loss pill called propecia. Pill designed to stop my hair from falling out. One month in I discovered that my private would struggle to stay turned on. Also orgasm lost feeling. Private has become pretty numb. Very upset over this. They have a website for the few guys who get affected to talk. No doctors have cures for this.

Im very sad and have been single for quite some time over this. I feel inadequate and hopeless all the time or at least like finding a girl will be very difficult. I'll feel bad that she's with me and gonna miss out on something beautiful. I think this is just bad thinking. Not sure.

So I thought is there people on this planet who live happy without sex for whatever reason so on Google I decided to type in 'Life Without Sex'.... I scrolled down and seen Lara Parkers blog on her situation 'Vulvodynia'.... I though wow girls have issues just like I currently have. That's how I found you guys... you are not alone guys... I'm only 25 and feel pretty scared. Scared that my life is ruined but I believe that's just self doubt. Everyday I'm seeking answers.

You are not alone. I would love to make friends with you guys. Would love to talk with you guys. Look me up on Facebook my name is Justin Robinson my profile picture is of me at Huntington Beach, California.... I live in Arizona... Hope you guys are doing well... I'm doing my best and will continue on the pursuit of happiness.
Love Justin

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Post  Justin777 Mon Dec 15, 2014 11:34 am

One of the toughest parts of this is when a girl likes me now I just avoid them because they don't know I'm messed up in that way. Its like before we get to know each other do I tell her or do I tell her after we get to know each other. I'll have to experiment. Really emotional situation.

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Post  Alana3 Mon Dec 15, 2014 7:19 pm

Hey,

Just to let you know... My boyfriend had cancer and his treatments messed him up. BUT the thing is after a while it all came back and life is fantastic (even if we couldn't have sex it would be fine, too). The point I'm making is its not always hopeless. And the wonderful thing about the world we live in is that there are always things you can do besides waiting. My advice would be to get the girl interested in you first, and if she really likes you, it won't matter.

I'm sorry you are going thru this, it really is a shitty experience, but don't give up, there is something (and someone) out there that can and will help you. I'd suggest maybe seeing a urologist and maybe they can help point you in a better direction! Hope toady is a better day for you!

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Post  Justin777 Mon Dec 15, 2014 11:12 pm

Thanks Alana for the advice. .. I tried to heal myself naturally with exercise for 4 months now... still the same. .. I'm finally going to a endocrinologist Thursday... the doctor who set me up with the Endocrinologist said my Estrogen is high... it's 230.... it should be 130 or below.

I'll keep you guys posted.

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Post  Alana3 Tue Dec 16, 2014 12:56 am

Good luck let us know how they go!

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Post  Marylynnreily Tue Dec 16, 2014 11:32 pm

Hey, I was just watching a Howard Stern show on youtube with Jenny Mccarthy and she mentioned that drug in connection with impotence and all kinds of other problems!! Ive also read online about this its crazy!
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Post  Marylynnreily Tue Dec 16, 2014 11:41 pm

It messes with your testosterone!

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Propecia can cause permanent erectile dysfunction


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By John Christian




Evidence has concluded that Propecia (finasteride) and its generic counterparts should now be considered controversial, potentially harmful drugs.

It’s officially documented: Propecia can cause prolonged sexual side effects as well permanent erectile dysfunction.

Propecia is a controversial drug manufactured by Merck which contains finasteride, a synthetic antiandrogen that inhibits type II 5-alpha reductase, the enzyme that converts testosterone to dihydrotestosterone (DHT). Finasteride was initially approved by the FDA in 1992 under the name Proscar for treating BPH, and later in 1997 was approved to treat male pattern baldness.

The mechanism of finasteride is that it is an inhibitor of 5-alpha reductase. By blocking this enzyme, finasteride blocks the conversion of testosterone into the more powerful androgen DHT. This reduces androgenic activity in the scalp, treating hair loss at its hormonal source (NOT at the source of hair loss, however).

The study was done by George Washington University School of Medicine, and has been peer reviewed and will appear in the upcoming Journal of Sexual Medicine.

This study joins several other findings that show that the use of finasteride may result in irreversible sexual dysfuncion, such as the December 2008 findings by the Swedish Medical Products agency.

These findings illustrate how Propeciahelp.com and many other individuals that bravely risked ridicule and stuck their necks out about this issue without financial motive were very right to do so -and these findings wouldn’t have been officially looked into if it wasn’t four their outcry. We now know Propecia has a much higher rate of erectile side effects than previously reported, can cause long term erectile dysfunction even after the drug is stopped, and can lead to permanent erectile dysfunction in others.

Despite negative personal experiences, the editors of this site have attempted to stay neutral regarding the use of this controversial drug due to the fact that its DHT-blocking mechanism for fighting hair loss is at least theoretically based in sound knowledge and research. However, with these new revelations regarding Propecia, the safety of this drug must be brought to light and taken under heavy consideration. Any future serious discussion of finasteride for hair loss should include these new findings.

So, use Propecia at your own risk, and knowledge is power.

This article has been reposted from USATODAY.com.


FROM USA TODAY









Sexual side effects from Propecia, Avodart may be irreversible





Drugs frequently prescribed for hair loss have been linked to erectile dysfunction, depression and loss of libido in a review of existing studies.

By Steven Reinberg, HealthDay

Drugs frequently prescribed to treat hair loss or an enlarged prostate may contribute to irreversible sexual dysfunction in men, new research finds.
Use of dutasteride (Avodart) and finasteride (Proscar and Propecia) were linked to erectile dysfunction, depression and loss of libido in a review of existing studies.

In a small percentage of cases, symptoms persisted even after the medication was stopped.

For those men, “it’s a life sentence,” said lead researcher Abdulmaged M. Traish, a professor of biochemistry and urology at Boston University School of Medicine.

“No sex. No desire. Potential depression,” Traish added.

Almost everyone who takes these drugs experiences some of these side effects, Traish said. “But, some experience it more drastically than others,” he added.

The drugs — prescribed to treat a common urological condition called benign prostatic hyperplasia (BPH) and baldness — work by blocking androgen. In the case of BPH, this helps reduce the enlarged prostate, making urination easier.

But there’s a downside. “We need androgen for erectile function, libido and ejaculation, and for just feeling good,” Traish said.

Noting that increasing numbers of patients report ongoing sexual problems after they stop taking the drugs, Traish said, “That’s where the light should be shined.”

“I am not worried about those who stop taking the drug and get their life back, (my concern is) about those who stop taking the drug, but they don’t get their life back,” Traish said.

The consequences are important in terms of their quality of life, he said.

For the study, published in the March issue of the Journal of Sexual Medicine, Traish’s team searched the available medical literature for reports of sexual side effects associated with finasteride and dutasteride.

About 8% of men taking the drugs reported erectile dysfunction, and 4.2% reported reduced libido, they found, compared with 4% and 1.8% of men receiving placebo, respectively.

Reduced ejaculation and semen volume and depression were also reported by some men, the researchers note.

Traish said doctors need to inform their patients about the potential side effects.

“As a physician you have a responsibility to take the time and explain to your patient that maybe not everyone will have these side effects, but you may, and in some cases they are irreversible,” he said.

He also said alternative medications are available to treat BPH, including alpha-blockers such as Flomax, which work differently in the body. Often these are given in combination with Propecia or Avodart.

Commenting on the study, Dr. Bruce R. Kava, an associate professor of urology at the University of Miami Miller School of Medicine, agreed that “these drugs do cause some of these problems.”

That the effects might not be reversible is a concern, he said. “But they haven’t convinced me yet, based on this data, because they don’t have any long-term data,” Kava said.

Most urologists discuss potential side effects with their patients, Kava said. “We don’t usually discuss long-term consequences that are irreversible, because most of us have not been aware of any long-term problems from these drugs,” he said.


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Post  lavrose Tue Dec 16, 2014 11:44 pm

try herbs Smile

horny goat weed?? cyclops
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Post  Justin777 Wed Dec 17, 2014 12:13 am

Yeah i have a few different herbs horny goad weed is one of them. .. I pretty much don't feel anything down there anymore and then worse the orgasm which is the best part I don't feel anything now like 90% gone the feeling. .. like taKing a pee basically . ..

yeah I threw the pills away when this first happened 6 months ago. .. had a panic attack. .. was scared to death... thought the devil was in my room... I started saying Jesus help me out loud. .. I'm just really mad at God right now... why he or the universe what ever you want to call it let thIs happen. .. I'm like the nicest person I've ever known. .. possibly the strongest mentally also. .. I'm not giving up

It's just really scary. .. I may began a YouTube series for 2015 documenting my life because this is out of this world... despite this being the best year of my life before June then all my dreams crushed after June... if I succeed after this I could inspire the world... success to me is happiness

Every time I listen to the radio. .. all the music reminds me of my past life and all the beautiful experiences... all the beautiful women.... all the joking around. .. I was the funnest guy in the night life. .. I would tell people I'm a vampire cuz I was always out at night... I Love people. .. I would have guys come up to me and ask for a picture cuz I would be having so much fun...

Now that's just insane. .. I will be back like Arnold says.... this is just the saddest time of my life... I'll find a away

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Post  Justin777 Fri Dec 19, 2014 8:32 am

Went to Endo yesterday. He doesn't see anything wrong on paper with my hormones even though my estrogen is 230 and should be 130 or below. Said that shouldn't effect me. Sending me to a Urologist on the 7th. So far they don't know what's wrong.

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Post  lavrose Fri Dec 19, 2014 3:57 pm

abcnews.go.com/...propecia-long-lasting-possibly-permanent-sexual/...

www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/247858


www.propeciahelp.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=6969


propecia-lawsuit-info.com/2014/...proscar-erectile-dysfunction-lawsuit (sue those fuckers!!!!)

www.pegym.com/forums/erectile-dysfunction-forum/50139...


ok, try getting maca powder in the form of morning smoothies in your diet. Also, if propecia causes genital shrinkage, try using an herbal supplement called "extense" on a daily basis for over a year. You ned to some how get your testosterone levels back up. Also try to get prescribed testosterone from your doctor.

and one guy claimed to have recovered after 5 years..

immortalhair.forumandco.com › Natural Hair Regrowth

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Post  lavrose Fri Dec 19, 2014 4:04 pm

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- Recovered from Propecia Side Effects after 5 years
Post isis on Fri Jun 07, 2013 12:35 am

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Hi there,

just published this in another forum. If somebody can get benefit out of it, I´m glad to share ...


I used to suffer from heavy side effects caused by propecia like brainfog, depression, anxiety, sexual problems, memory loss and sluggish speech for about 5 years.

My side effects were so severe that I couldn’t work, couldn’t hang out with friends, couldn´t have sex, couldn´t even smell and taste. In the first years, I was just at home and lying in my bed. I couldn’t feel no joy for nothing and felt totally disconnected and numb.

I saw many doctors and naturopaths on the way. I what quite hard to convince many professionals, nobody could believe that Propecia can cause this. I tried different supplements, drugs, hormones etc. and found that they didn’t make it better, some even made it worse.

More and more and realized, that just taking another form of drug to heal my symptoms might not do the job. And so i got interested into a more holistic kind of an approach and finally also met a doctor, who was very skilled and showed real interest in my case.

Together with her, we worked out plan, how to reset my hormonal system and adrenals completely and bring my body back in balance again. Besides keeping a healthy diet and taking the right supplements ,we focused very much on healing the colon, as she says, that hormones and neurotransmitter production as well as adrenal function are very depended on a healthy intestinal flora.

„If you don’t have a healthy colon, you much more sensitive all sorts of diseases including the side effects of certain pharmaceuticals. „ that’s what she said.

I tried various colon cleansing methods before, and failed, until i learned how to it the right way.
The better my colon got and the more detoxified my body was, the lesser my side effects got as well.
In my case it was quite obvious, that the condition of my colon and adrenals very directly connected to the degree of my side effects.

Today I´m fully free of symptoms, and honestly guys, just a year back, I couldn’t believe that this will ever be the case. I don’t have any brainfog, depression, anxiety and sexual problems left. I feel that I got all my energy back and finally can close this chapter once and for all.

I m currently working on blog were I will my whole program with you I cannot guarantee, that this will cure everyone, but it certainly can make you feel much better, more clear and also improve your sexual energy,.


The main steps I did were:

- getting toxins, heavy metals and acids completely out of my body by taking huge amount of bentonite everyday
changing the ph of my blood and tissues by eating a alkaline diet
eating foods, that support my colon, hormones and adrenals
- changing the ph and environment in my intestinal flora by taking bowel supplements and probiotica
taking bio-identical progesterone
taking DeoxyCholic Acid ( DCA) which is a bile acid
- taking chinese herbs to restore my sexual energy like schisandra, cordyceps etc.
doing exercises that support hormone and adrenal function
living a natural lifestyle
avoiding stress as much as possible
changing my mental attitude in regards to my side effects and taking responsibility


these are the rough points. My blog will be finished in a few weeks, then you´ll get in very in detail.



Take care!!
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Post sanderson on Fri Jun 07, 2013 9:53 am

.good post, happy for you. i'm trying to do the same. i've found adrenals/thyroid have a massive part in this. ive read multiple recoveries involving iodine as well. please, any more info, post away. i've been dealing with this shit for a while also now.. 5 years as well.. but making big strides in last 2 weeks.. i'm hoping to be clear like you soon...
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I’ll start off by saying that I have pretty much fully recovered from the after-effects of Propecia. While on the drug, I had no real side-effects at all until just before ceasing use. I was on ¼ of one tablet (0.25 of a mg) once daily, for about 3mths from DEC08 to FEB09. I had taken it before, about a year ago, for a few weeks but didn’t like the way it made me feel. So I decided to take a very small dosage for the above mentioned 3mth period, hoping that there would be no side effects. I was 29 years old at the time.

I stopped taking Propecia due to the increasing anxiety I was feeling toward the end of the 3mths. I also experienced confused thoughts, negative emotions, and mood swings (irritability, short temper, scary thoughts). The trouble really started when I stopped taking it.

Upon stopping Propecia, I almost immediately felt / experienced:

- Intense anxiety, increasing in intensity upon ceasing use. This lasted about a week, then moderated somewhat.
- Terrible sleeplessness. It was as if my sleep “trigger” simply ceased working, and even when very, very tired I could not go down to a restful sleep. This lasted about 6wks.
- Depression, which increased with the sleeplessness. Was on and off, depending on the amount of sleep I got and how I got to sleep.
- Impotence about one week after ceasing use, which lasted about two weeks.
- Loss of appetite. It was as if I didn’t really want or need to eat. I had to force myself to eat at regular meal times to maintain weight.
- Dried out tear ducts.

It seems that many people suffer the above, some get better and some continue to experience some of the above or other symptoms. Here is my experience throughout the recovery:

- I have had serious anxiety in the past, and learned how to handle it naturally. I “knew” this would be temporary, so I rode it out without resorting to medication. I used breathing techniques, and exercise primarily to deal with the anxiety. It subsided.
- The impotence was scary. I had never suffered this before in my life. It was as if my penis shrunk and went limp overnight. No morning erections, no desire to have sex, like my dick had just died on me! Pretty terrifying at the time! I forced myself to FULLY accept what had happened, and this acceptance relaxed me. My wife was very concerned, and I had to tell her that I could not even contemplate sex while this was going on. I decided this was something I had to fix myself without her help. I started swallowing zinc tablets, which helped, and (yeah, I know this sounds funky, but it worked!) looking at porn when I was alone, with no pressure from the wife or anybody else. I simply had the aim to “get hard” first, then I’d deal with maintaining an erection and ejaculating. Well, I got hard after about two weeks, then managed to get full use back a few days later. Seriously, I couldn’t get it to work around my wife, I really had to get it back in action myself. Then everything came together from there. Honestly guys, try to take this one step at a time if you are struggling. Don’t put pressure on yourself, one step at a time! Try the zinc too, lots of it, and balance it with copper if necessary!
- The sleeplessness was the big daddy of all mother f*ckers while dealing with this!! It was brutal! What made it worse, I resorted to trying Lunesta (which caused intense, deep, serious depressive episodes. Very, very bad!), Ambien (didn’t work at all) and Temazepam (worked for a couple of days, then stopped. Withdrawals the next day sucked). Listen guys, the sleeping pills are BAD NEWS!! The more I took them, the more my moods would fluctuate, the more anxiety I would feel, the more I’d worry about sleeping and not, and the depression was downright awful. I drank myself into a stupor several times while dealing with the depression. Having had depression before, I knew I could beat it. But boy it was rough. If you are taking pills and still experiencing anxiety / depression, try coming off them. I told myself one day that this was it: No more pills, if I couldn’t get my sleep back naturally, I would just get so fatigued that I’d sleep whether I liked it or not. I surrendered to the situation, and this worked wonders. I researched meditation and self hypnosis. These techniques worked a charm! Natural, deeply relaxing techniques. Listen guys, your body is one seriously intelligent organism. It can and will fix itself, if you can get your mind out of the way. That’s what I did, that’s how I got my sleep back on track, and that’s how my depression and anxiety faded and disappeared. YOU MUST MAKE A COMMITMENT TO NOT USE THE PRESCRIPTION DRUGS if you can, this was key. I was willing to deal with any consequences just to get better (this included loss of job, moving in with the in-laws (I have no family here) etc.) My body needed me, and that was that.
- Fixing sleep took care of the appetite.
- My tear ducts are better, but are still dry. If Propecia has had a lasting effect on me, this is it. I can live with it.
- Other very important actions I took whilst going through all of this was the following:
o Strict dietary change. Raw fruits, vegetables (ESPECIALLY: loads of spinach, celery, strawberries, apples, loads of oranges, blueberries, almonds, walnuts, tomatoes, bananas, peaches), and at least 6 cups of green tea daily (highly recommended). Salmon and chicken was my staple fish / meat.
o Loaded up on additional Vitamin B and C supplements while getting over this. I tried every natural sleep aid possible, 5HTP, Melatonin, Sleep MD, Valerian etc etc. I can PROMISE you that the best remedy for sleep is self hypnosis or meditation before bed, and simply LISTENING to your body, when it is tired let it rest, trust your body 100% and get your mind out of the way. DO NOT mix the natural aids with the prescription stuff, it can do funny sh*t to you.
o Exercise that increases testosterone levels, daily. I did hundreds of situps, pushups, chinups, and when running, jog/sprint/jog/sprint. Very, very intense exercise is required. I have always been an athlete, and I really needed to call on all of my training to get through this.

I can’t stress strongly enough how much I went totally against prescription drugs while getting over this. I will never, ever touch prescription medication again. There is always a solution in nature if you look hard enough. Your body has an amazing capacity to heal itself if given the leeway to do so.

Would I ever recommend Propecia? ABSOLUTELY NOT. This is a bad drug, period. Hormones are delicate, and should not be messed with. We are lucky our bodies are programmed to readjust and heal themselves.

Guys, I hope this helps. If you are suffering from using this drug, please keep working at it, there is light at the end of the tunnel. Surrendering to your situation is quite liberating, and it is the opposite of defeat. Accepting what you are going through shines the light on the answer, it really does.

If I can help you at all, please message me, I’ll do my best to respond asap. I wish you all the best.

Steve

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Post  lavrose Fri Dec 19, 2014 4:19 pm



I just recently encountered your article regarding Post-Finasteride-Syndrome, and I could share some advice from my own experience and recovery processes. I started taking the drug, in the Proscar form, about a year ago when I was 18. My doctor prescribed it to me, and unfortunately, neglected to warn me of the potential consequences. Of course, just two weeks in, I began to experience the described sexual side effects including numbness, shrinkage, testicular pain, dysfunction, etc. I stopped taking the drug immediately, but things only seemed to get worse. After a month off, my system "crashed", causing severe androgen deficiency and I was experiencing the full myriad of sexual and mental side effects, so add depression, fatigue, anxiety, insomnia, lack of motivation to the list of symptoms.

I tried to find help online through [edited by moderator], but the forums offered little help and there was a general consensus that the condition was irreversible, and it seemed only to be an outlet for affected users' misery, frustration and desperation. Obviously, I was devastated and saw myself transform from a motivated straight "A" student-athlete to a deplorable, miserable, couch-locked sociopath almost overnight. I visited doctors and endocrinologists, but none could offer any significant help, just testosterone-replacement-therapy. ( I wasn't ready to give in at my age, and has very mixed results), or to dismiss my condition as psychosomatic or mentally self-induced.
After months of suffering and self-evaluation, I knew I needed to do something. To many guys with this condition,tragically, the answer is suicide. For me, I decided I must deploy every health tactic in the arsenal of modern medicine. Through my teen years, my sport has been natural powerlifting/bodybuilding and so thankfully I'd already been thoroughly self educated on the critical role of androgens in male physiology, and how to manipulate them without drugs. Furthermore, I came across a man based in England, under similar circumstances, was able to make a full recovery and put together a respective program on his own website.

I pooled my resources, which included your website peaktestosterone.com (which I read almost daily), and put together my own program. Basically, use a once-weekly resistance workout style called "big-five" which is detailed in the book [edited by moderator], I avoid cardio altogether, and focus on resting through most of the week. As for my diet, I follow a fairly strict paleo-style diet, focusing on meat, nuts, eggs, fruit and veggies. I consume no grains or processed foods and minimal dairy. After reading your article on the hormonal effects of pesticides, I've gone nearly full organic as well, with the exception of "safe" foods like avocados, kiwis and bananas. Further, I take a multivitamin, fish oil and 10 mg of zinc daily, and have now include maca and chia seeds following the advice of your website.

I've been adhering to my regimen for nearly 4 months now, and ,thankfully, have seen some wonderful progress in terms of my symptoms subsiding. Blood work has also documented my progress, as I've managed to increase my tesosterone from a daily average of 240 to an average of 430. I no longer suffer from brain fog or severe depressive/anxiety disorder, and am getting significantly more pleasure from sex and arousal. Anyways, my point is that many guys are victims of the corporate pigs who shoved this drug onto the market before a chance for proper research, and are forced to believe that this condition is entirely irreversible from an online community of similarly depressed and miserable perspectives.

While we may not know about this condition extensively, we do, however, know that it is based in an epigenetic change of the male chromosome, meaning that with the optimal diet, excercise stimulus, and rest, it is very plausible that anyone affected can make a full recovery. It is simply a matter of time and effort. I know I will make a full recovery within the year, and hopefully in the next few months, at which point I will begin to really push my solutions to the masses of affected individuals.

In the meantime I will keep up my progress, using your site and advice as an instrumental tool in getting back my young life. This really is a tragic situation for too many guys, and I hope you will try and share the solution.


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Post  lavrose Fri Dec 19, 2014 4:21 pm

Re: Recovery from ZERO libido after Propecia



I rarely reply to these posts because what works for one person could be a waste of time for another, but I'll let you know about my experience in case you'd like to apply parts of it to you own situation.

I started fin at 20 and took it until 25... I realized something was wrong when I took an attractive lady to my hotel room in Las Vegas and couldn't get hard. After that night, I began to slowly decrease my dosage until I came off completely, and ended up with a massive post-fin crash. Its now been 6 months since I came off and I am probably at 50%-60% recovered. Not great but much better than 0. Here's what helped me:

I started exercising everyday, and by exercising I don't mean playing tennis. I mean going to the gym and lifting heavy weights with few repetitions (6-10). To get your testosterone boosting you need to lift low reps and high weight. I feel hornier in general after going to the gym for a week, and my general disposition improves. For an extra boost of wellbeing I jog for 15-20 minutes whenever I can. When I stop exercising, I feel like ****. Another benefit of this is that you will start to look good, getting attention from women, and that itself can make u hornier.

I cut out most foods that I know are bad for me. Processed food, fast food, foods high in saturated fats, high sugar, high salt, soda, etc. I drink a lot of water, a lot of water and green tea, lean meats (red meat only once a week), fish, brown rice, sweet potatoes, etc.

I stopped drinking, I stopped partying until 3am, I stopped smoking weed, etc. And I try not to more than a reasonable amount. I try to wake up early and sleep early, and I try to be consistent so that my body knows when to rest and when to work.

I take a multivitamin for men, fish oil, Vitamin A for my skin and thats about it. I try to stay away (except for the green tea) from drugs that claim to lower DHT or be Anti-Androgens because that would be obviously counter productive to my recovery. This is difficult as you might seem like you are willingly letting go of your hair, but you have to make a decision on what you want, cause if your the type of person that is suffering from 0 libido from Fin, you probably can't have both your hair and your libido, some men can keep a balance, others have to choose.

I incorporate ginger in my diet as its a potent anti-inflammatory and I use minox on my hairline, thats about all I do for my hair besides staring at it in the mirror all day.

In the last 6 months my libido has recovered substantially as a result of these changes, and I think if you can incorporate any of these you are helping yourself. Diet, exercise, and abstaining from paranoia-wanking are the most important.

Hope that helps, don't give up on yourself.
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Post  Justin777 Fri Dec 19, 2014 8:55 pm

Thanks alot for the support guys. .. I do believe the first and hardest step to these diseases is becoming happy no matter what.... I've always believed that stress is worse than McDonald's. ... (which gives me a reason to eat McDonald's :-) lol jk)

Then extreme health living over time so the body can heal it's self... I'm learning about meditation right now to calm my mind gonna try Holosync possibly just found out about it hoping its legitimate. . . .. I also want to do a 21 day water fast. .. apparently when you water fast your body shuts down and focuses all energy on healing detoxing etc... Supervised.. pretty expensive.... vegan diet nutritarian diet paleo diet exercise daily...

This is pretty much the only route when doctors don't know how to fix us... thanks super much again


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Post  Justin777 Sun Dec 21, 2014 4:03 pm

Because of my severe depression I'm doing what ever I can to be happy again. I just got done with practicing sitting still and focusing on my breath for 60 min. I'm probably gonna do this the rest of my life. Anyhow I felt like a natural high after the 60 min. 

I've been researching meditation and I believe the more you do it the happier you become. This video really hit home for me to seriously began doing it. Im aiming to do it 60 min apon wake up and 60 min after work. For now and see how it goes...Doing what ever it takes to be happy again. Really happy I discovered this

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