PAIN FREE WITH DR ROBERT MORSE

Hi RoseKa. I sent you a PM to ask you some questions about your healing journey and am wondering if you got it. Thanks!

yoginimom wrote:Thanks you Nicholas! I've been reading over all this info, and have been doing the light fast stroking all day yesterday and today. It's helping!

As for my history. I have been a raw foodist in the past, but it didn't work perfectly for me so i switched to a vegan diet. I've been mostly vegan for about 5 years. In the last year or so i have been eating a bit more cheese, and if i don't have coconut milk on hand i will use diary cream. So really all i've have to do is cut back out the cheese and cream, which has so far been very easy for me. Though i do eat cooked grains on my salads, like rice or quinoa, so i may cut those out for a while as i heal, is that what you would recommend?

Usually i have juice every morning and smoothies for lunch (i guess ido the raw till 4 thing most days). So i would say on average my diet is very healthy and has been for a long time. I was 100% raw about 6 years ago and stayed that way for a year, and i did a total juice fast about 10 years ago which healed me from a really serious illness.

Because my issue is due to a fall on my tailbone and an injury to the pudendal nerve, it's not just diet alone that i need, (though i am sure it will help a lot) but i do go by the philosophy of "treat the person not the symptom" so i agree with this stuff by default, because my past experience has proven it to me so to speak.

So i do think we are already mostly on the same page.

That said, i am very open to learning new approaches, and will take all your advice in with an open mind and apply it to the best of my ability. Pain is a good motivator, and i am ready to heal!  

I will continue to read this last post of yours and keep applying the info. I'll let you know how it goes!

PS, please don't worry about 'leaving me hanging' just answer as your time permits. I really don't want to take advantage of your kindness here, i appreciate what you are doing, it's a real gift. So any answer is wonderful for me! No matter how long the delay.

Hello again, Yoginimom!

I'm glad to hear the technique is helping; it amazes me when people, with so simple methods, report quick symptom improvements with just 1 or 2 techniques alone and without applying the full speed-healing sequences (with or without using a rebounder) or advanced pain relief techniques. But that just leaves room for plenty more possibilities.

But I can definitely say it helps that you've been maintaining a predominantly health-promoting diet for a long time, which is why I think your body is so responsive. Keep it up and let me know how it goes!

As for the rice and quinoa, it's up to you, but at minimum, I'd substitute the rice (presuming it's white/brown rice) with wild rice or just stick with the quinoa. At best, I'd leave out both the rice and quinoa while working on my body - using them to "slow down" cleansing effects occasionally. You'll get a clearer idea of this as you go through the material.

I do wish that plenty more of the members here would consider adopting these principles, not just the cost-nothing-to-apply techniques or any of the herbs/tools I've suggested, but more importantly the permanent lifestyle and diet changes along with it. It would save many of them substantial time and trouble as they search for one-hit wonder products/treatments, not to mention helping to prevent any future health problems. But I understand that this has to resonate with each of us. Either way I'm delighted to see whenever someone picks up on it and goes to work on integrating and applying it.

Sorry to hear what happened regarding the fall; could you elaborate a little further on the damage incurred as a result (i.e. how badly is it)?

I'll get back to your PM. We risk ending up having dual conversations. :-)

Hi Nichlas,

I've been returning to this thread and your grapegate website over and over!  I have found it tremendously helpful and leading me towards hope and cheerfulness!!

I wonder if I could ask a few questions?

1.  I checked out the coffee substitutes you linked to and would really like to try the Ayurvedic Roast one.  However, it has barley and rye.  Would that be problem in the diet we are following from Dr. Morse?

2. Do you suggest eating the fruits raw or juiced?  Or both?  I also purchased the omega juicer and can't wait to try it!

3. You mentioned that seedless fruits are not the best quality.  Does that include grapes?  I don't like seeded grapes, but if they are better, I will do whatever it takes, lol!

4.  Is the grape fast plan laid out anywhere?

5. It seems most of the recommendations are for mono fruit meals. If I am combining into smoothies or juicing, can I use multiple fruits and veggies? The correct food combining chart shows that we should NOT combine any fruit with veggies. I usually add a few vegies to my fruit smoothie.

6. Is raw goat's milk okay to add into my smoothie? I get it locally from a farm.

Thank you from the bottom of my heart for the resources you are providing.

Supramom2000 wrote:Hi Nichlas,

I've been returning to this thread and your grapegate website over and over!  I have found it tremendously helpful and leading me towards hope and cheerfulness!!

I wonder if I could ask a few questions?

1.  I checked out the coffee substitutes you linked to and would really like to try the Ayurvedic Roast one.  However, it has barley and rye.  Would that be problem in the diet we are following from Dr. Morse?

2. Do you suggest eating the fruits raw or juiced?  Or both?  I also purchased the omega juicer and can't wait to try it!

3. You mentioned that seedless fruits are not the best quality.  Does that include grapes?  I don't like seeded grapes, but if they are better, I will do whatever it takes, lol!

4.  Is the grape fast plan laid out anywhere?

5. It seems most of the recommendations are for mono fruit meals.  If I am combining into smoothies or juicing, can I use multiple fruits and veggies?  The correct food combining chart shows that we should NOT combine any fruit with veggies.  I usually add a few vegies to my fruit smoothie.

6. Is raw goat's milk okay to add into my smoothie?  I get it locally from a farm.

Thank you from the bottom of my heart for the resources you are providing.

Hello Supramom!

Strange I don't get an e-mail notification on some of these messages, so it's a good thing you let me know.

Wonderful to hear that you're finding the resources helpful. I'm foremost glad that some are choosing to take advantage of the information provided, or are at least considering it.

And yes, certainly feel free to ask questions; so let's go through yours. :-)

1.) My response to this will tie in with number 6.

There are times where your overall approach to diet is more laid back, not "strict," if you will, yet still clean and based on natural whole foods. Then there are times when you pull up your sleeves and go to work on your health.

However, at the beginning, the average person should ease their way into this process and can start with cleaning up their diet bit by bit by eliminating various foods (all the junk and dairy should go quick) and perhaps finding cleaner alternatives, like Ayurvedic Roast in place of regular coffee.

So, I'd say yes, you can enjoy the Ayurvedic Roast and goat's milk alongside your new diet, for the time being, until you feel prepared to take the next step.

The next step is phasing out the goat's milk (can be replaced with homemade coconut-, nut-, or seed-based milks), then eventually also the Ayurvedic Roast.

But by all means goat's milk is preferable to any bovine dairy.

2.) Both, but preferably whole or used sparingly to sweeten green juices. It depends also on the individual's situation of course, because pure fruit juice, made from grapes or apples in particular, can be very helpful at times. Outside of that, fresh pressed pure fruit juice can be a refreshing treat on the occasion.

3.) It does, yes. Unless the thought of seeded grapes causes you stress or depression (haha), I would definitely suggest you choose these over the seedless variety.

4.) Well, although a plan is offered in Johanna Brandt's book, 'Grape Cure,' we usually keep it simple by saying take it one day at a time and eat small but frequent portions (e.g. every 90-120 minutes) of grapes throughout the day. Ultimately, you can put together a little plan for yourself that you know you can follow. Some people do well relying on intuition and how they feel as days go by; others like a more practical and structured approach, writing down their meal plan. Either way is all right.

If you need further help with this, let me know.

5.) Apple, pineapple, lemon, and lime are just fine to use in green juices. In smoothies, you can definitely add various fruits to make classic "green smoothies." I'm not big on those recipes with 10-15+ ingredients, some of which are difficult to procure, just to make a great smoothie, when 2-5 ingredients should well suffice.

The produce combining rules apply most notably to fruits and vegetables in their whole form.

6.) As mentioned, you can do so for the time being. Then I would eventually find an alternative. You can check page 6 of this PDF for suggestions: http://grapegate.com/wp-content/uploads/Children-Detoxification.pdf

Hope this helps clarify some things for you.

P.S.: Put that new juicer to work (I hope you won't be symptomatically sensitive to juices)! :-)

P.S.S.: I'll get back to your e-mail as time permits.

Thank you Nichlas for such detailed answers! I am one of those that likes a laid out, concise plan. But I use my intuition and what my body is telling me to make any adjustments.

So if you have the time at some point, to guide me through the fasting process or the steps, in order, that I should take, I would be most grateful.

Follow up on your answers:

I think I'm getting that you prefer the fruits to not be juiced except for a few of them to flavor green juices, correct?

So juicing is better for the veggies and raw, whole fruit is better than fruit juicing?

If I eat raw, whole fruit, how long do you wait before you eat something veggie related? And this means do not have a wonderful green salad with lots of fruit in it, correct?

At what times are the fresh apple or grape juice the most beneficial?

Lastly, I'm confused on melons. They are not listed on the acidic chart at all. Which category do they fall under? Keeping in mind that I may not have IC but do have an inflamed (or something) bladder, are melons appropriate for me?

Thank you again!

So if you have the time at some point, to guide me through the fasting process or the steps, in order, that I should take, I would be most grateful.

Sure thing!

Follow up on your answers:

I think I'm getting that you prefer the fruits to not be juiced except for a few of them to flavor green juices, correct?

The basic answer is yes. The complicated answer is that some fresh pressed fruit juice on the occasion rocks.   

So juicing is better for the veggies and raw, whole fruit is better than fruit juicing?

On the whole, that's about right. At least I personally emphasize whole or blended fruit over juiced fruit. Other practitioners out there might encourage more fruit juice fasting, so that's up to them.

If I eat raw, whole fruit, how long do you wait before you eat something veggie related?

I wait a minimum of 3 hours, but I usually won't feel a need to eat again that soon; so something like 4-5 hours on average for myself.

And this means do not have a wonderful green salad with lots of fruit in it, correct?

That's right. Exceptions would include squeezed orange juice as part of a dressing (or the juice itself being the dressing) and dried fruit (typically raisins, pineapple, and cranberries).

At what times are the fresh apple or grape juice the most beneficial?

Now that's a really good question. Apple juice tends to be used a lot where stones (kidney stones, liver stones, etc.) are concerned (combined with other tools like chanca piedra herb, 'Phosphood Liquid' by Standard Process, etc.) to help dissolve the stones across a span of several months.

Organic, quality, and fresh qrape juice can prove exemplary when you need something with attributes toward the lymphatic system in someone very ill and weak, who do not have the power to feed themselves. I've had a very advanced and brittle case of an 80-year-old where we needed to feed him a few tablespoons of grape juice at a time (we also used a juice recipe of apple, lemon, and celery), as he couldn't handle much else in terms of solid food or liquid.

Outside of that, it just depends. A person can definitely do apple or grape juice for days straight for as long they know what they're doing.

Lastly, I'm confused on melons.  They are not listed on the acidic chart at all.  Which category do they fall under?

If they're properly ripened, I would posit them under sub-acid. Outside of that they are a category for themselves.

Keeping in mind that I may not have IC but do have an inflamed (or something) bladder, are melons appropriate for me?

This falls in with the response I gave you via e-mail. Some will be able to handle melons or any other fruit, while others won't. This applies to each individual fruit. So the best person to answer that will be you, through experience. It might almost be scary to do so now, but just eat a little of some type of melon and see how your body responds.

Hi Nichlas,

I have been reading this thread recently as I have just been to see a Naturopath. I have vulvodynia which consists of itching/burning and nerve pain in one side , low estrogen [I'm only 27 mind you! too young for low estrogen!] and Polycystic Ovaries despite not being overweight and excessively hairy. she has given me various hormone balancing herbs and suppliments and has put me on a very strict diet.

The diet she has me on is strictly no dairy, no gluten, no sugar, no fruit, low carb, no grains, high protein and good fats.

I am basically living on vegetables [excluding potato and sweet potato], lean cuts of meat, nuts, coconut and almond milk.

Would this be enough to help detoxify the body? She will not allow fruit as Polycystic ovaries are controlled by insulin and fruits sugar may slow down my healing process.

I think it is great that you are going out of your way to help the women of this forum, not many people would offer advice like yours out of the goodness of their hearts.

Any advice would be much appreciated.

sailor_moon wrote:Hi Nichlas,

I have been reading this thread recently as I have just been to see a Naturopath. I have vulvodynia which consists of itching/burning and nerve pain in one side , low estrogen [I'm only 27 mind you! too young for low estrogen!] and Polycystic Ovaries despite not being overweight and excessively hairy. she has given me various hormone balancing herbs and suppliments and has put me on a very strict diet.

The diet she has me on is strictly no dairy, no gluten, no sugar, no fruit, low carb, no grains, high protein and good fats.

I am basically living on vegetables [excluding potato and sweet potato], lean cuts of meat, nuts, coconut and almond milk.

Would this be enough to help detoxify the body? She will not allow fruit as Polycystic ovaries are controlled by insulin and fruits sugar may slow down my healing process.

I think it is great that you are going out of your way to help the women of this forum, not many people would offer advice like yours out of the goodness of their hearts.

Any advice would be much appreciated.

Hello Moon.

Now that's funny. Just some days ago, the day you posted that thread about your naturopath consultation, I proceeded to write a 1-page response to your thread. I did it not only because of that thread, but because I've read several of your other posts so I knew a little bit about your history. But for a few reasons I let the finished response collect dust, which still remains.

My reasons were:

1. I assumed that if any of the active long-termers here (in which I had included you) were interested in what I had to say, unless this thread had already provided sufficient information, they would probably have reached out by now.
   
2. It somewhat doesn't feel right for me to step in on other threads on this forum, if you understand.
   
3. The last thing I wanted to do was confuse you with any suggestions, or feedback I had regarding your naturopath's recommendations.
   

Anyway, that aside, you ask a good question. I will say this: First, it depends on your body. Second, if your current diet is a sufficient step above the previous, which I'll take a guess that it is, it has potential to help. However, the diet she has you on will only take you so far before further revisions need to be made, to transcend the plateau you may encounter depending on what the supplements will do for you.

Third, the sort of foods you eat (and fasting), as powerful as this measure can be, remains still only one spoke of a larger wheel, a wheel that would constitute a more complete health and healing model.

This I attempt to remind people of first so they don't end up trying to overcompensate with diet as a result of sometimes severely neglecting every other facet of health creation (for instance: breathing, sleeping, and movement patterns; sunlight exposure; positive psychology; emotional stability; environmental, relational, and other relevant variables).

Bear in mind: Living "free of disease," if you will, is a way of life. As the ultimate example of a real dictator, nature doesn't really give us a choice but to respect and adhere to certain rules if we expect to always remain well. And for as long as we repeatedly, day after day, operate in defiance of the universal natural laws beyond the body's capacity to keep up, purify, repair and heal itself from our disharmonious conduct it is a given that the body will prematurely fall apart starting at the cell and genetic level as the years and decades go by. This is a hint to you that no matter the outcome of what you do, if you return to your old lifestyle or resume it, you will in time experience a return of old symptoms or the generation of new health issues down the road.

As for your practitioner excluding fruit and suggesting a diet rich in protein with the addition of protein shakes, for healing, I mean, yeah... that's what you get these days. :-)

But on a more serious note, I would never myself suggest a protein-rich diet if my aim was to facilitate healing, and especially not for someone in pain. That leaves two general approaches: the fruit and vegetable focus ("high carb"), or the vegetable and fats emphasis ("high fat") aided with the proper tools. Both have their place. Fruit is still part of the latter, but is not the foundation of the diet as it would typically be with the former.

So, with that said, I don't want to interfere with the cooperation between you and the naturopath, and then certainly not without knowing more about you first, as I get the idea you've been through a lot already.

If all you're looking for is some kind of temporary relief until future scheduled operation(s), she should be able to help you achieve that. Should you have further questions, do feel free to ask and I'll respond as timely as I can.

As for the things I've been doing to provide help, a 19th century German philosopher once succinctly stated, “Health is not everything, but without health, everything is nothing.” (Arthur Schopenhauer.)

So, at age 18 (4 years ago), a time when I could've been more concerned with "studying little and partying hard" like all my friends were and still are, I questioned, "In light of the emerging health crisis, what better thing is there to do than to care for my being and be of service to those struggling in absence of physical wellbeing?"

Ever since then it's been a major learning endeavor, jumping through hoops and putting the puzzle together a piece at a time, and meeting some wonderful people—health professionals and otherwise—from around the world in the process. Heck I'm just getting started!

All right, you got 2 pages instead. Keep up the reading.

Nichlas, if you are still here, are you seeing people? If so are you located in the US or do you do skype consults. I'd be happy to pay to speak with you. I could use some help getting my life on track and better yet ending this awful pain and am hopeful to see that some have overcome it. I havent read every post here yet but you have been very nice and patient to help us ladies out. Thank you for the care you share.

I am at my wits end with seeing different doctors and thought I really need to do something different.

ariel87 wrote:Nichlas, if you are still here, are you seeing people? If so are you located in the US or do you do skype consults. I'd be happy to pay to speak with you. I could use some help getting my life on track and better yet ending this awful pain and am hopeful to see that some have overcome it. I havent read every post here yet but you have been very nice and patient to help us ladies out. Thank you for the care you share.

I am at my wits end with seeing different doctors and thought I really need to do something different.

Hello ariel.

Hopefully you're still waiting for a reply and I'm not responding too late. Pardon my delay.

I guess I'll be here until the unlikely event that I change my age-old email address and forget to update it on this site, meaning I'll miss out on receiving notifications. :-)

About your questions, I currently find myself in more of a "mentoring space," if you will, for other pro-health practitioners in a similar niche. I do give a helping hand to other individuals when I can, but I'm really occupied between establishing two European companies and being actively involved in setting up an upcoming grassroots association for holistic health care providers. So I don't have the capacity to offer consultations and provide focused care and ongoing support at this time.

Furthermore, I'm situated in Denmark, so if we did connect it would definitely have to be via phone or videoconferencing software (Skype, Google Hangouts, etc.).

I suggest you to read through Rita's thread here, if you haven't finished by now, to pick up the gist of my general recommendations, and then carefully read through the following article written by a terrific person I know: http://www.kenfried.me/new-blog/2015/9/8/why-youre-not-healing

Once you've read it, do it again.

It is crucial that we gradually work to change our mindsets and perspectives when it comes to our health and well-being, and remove ourselves from victim mentality and the conditioned perception of "disease" as being this external force we have no control over other than to try and suppress the experienced symptoms with various instruments or, well, just surgically cut out one body part after the other thinking that'll solve anything beyond providing some degree of temporary relief. If we don't personally undergo change at a deeper level (most often on the mental and emotional level), the root of the problem will still remain.

Always keep that in the back of your mind. As you read through this thread, you'll notice I keep touching on this in different ways as well. Because changing your diet, taking different supplements, engaging powerful therapeutics, or using various topical applications to help soothe and/or reverse the problem, is the easy part. And sometimes this "easy" part is fortunately sufficient to produce full recovery in a person.

But for a lot of other people it doesn't quite settle to the actual core of why their physical body is communicating/expressing the symptoms they're experiencing. This latter group of people are the ones that may find themselves, say, suffering their lives away year after year on forums like this one and all the other thousands of health related support groups and forums out there. And many of these people also resist changing due to fear, intellectual stubbornness, fixed and stagnant belief systems, attention-seeking, or whatever else may be putting them in their own way. So there's that part of it as well.

It's a journey. It's not easy. But boy (or girl!), it's worth it.

I know a lot of the things I've shared throughout this thread may extend into areas and concepts you may not yet be accustom to, but once you realize how upside-down and backwards our general understanding and paradigm of health has gotten, you may understand that stepping outside of the box and entering a new genesis is the only way we stand a chance at finding lasting resolution.

It can take some time to soak in these things, but, with regard to your personal well-being, it will help remove a lot of barriers in your life if you can understand and choose to apply it.

If you need further starting tips, I suggest you get a subscription ($7.95/month) @ foodmatters.tv (FMTV.com). That site, as they rightly claim, is pretty much the natural health equivalent of Netflix. You'll have access to a lot of educational and quick tip video material, as well as recipes and "getting started" videos aimed at the average Joe/Jane to help people make big-picture changes in their lifestyles and diet for the greater good.

And if you really feel you can't do it alone (i.e. without specific guidance from a practitioner), and you're done messing around, I can make suggestions as for whom you could potentially consult with, in which case I pinky promise it won't be a vulvodynia specialist.

Either way, I strongly emphasize that you seize self-responsibility first and remember that no one else and nothing else heals you except for your own body. Your job is to provision the necessary conditions, whatever it may take, that will allow your body to do the repair work, and then get out of its way. In this context, helping you make these achievements one way or another is the only role that other people (doctors, coaches, therapists, guides, etc.) really serve.

Right, that's my piece. Again.

So the rest is up to you. Now get busy. :-)

If you have questions, post them here and I'll try to catch up. Ciao.

- Nichlas