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Tue Oct 16, 2018 2:35 pm by mertzwl

Hi everyone - I can't believe I've been dealing with this for almost 10 years and an appointment scheduler at a urogyn office is the one to suggest I look into vulvodynia. Honestly, I don't care, I just thankful I might have an answer.

I have pain in one specific spot right around the urethral opening so it always coincides with urinating (it's not a uti). Does anyone else deal with pain …

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Diagnosed recently, looking for advice

Sun Sep 02, 2018 12:51 am by Cloudberry

Hi everyone,

I'm so glad I found this forum! I was diagnosed with vulvodynia/vulvar vestibulitis (still not sure about the difference between all the different terms) a couple of months ago and I could do with some advice. This is probably going to be a lot of text because I just want to get everything off my chest, so please bear with me.

I’m a woman in my late 20s. Before getting diagnosed …

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From a concerned husband

Thu Jul 12, 2018 10:45 pm by ConcernedYorkieHubby

Hello everyone,

This is probably a little unconventional, but I’m a man who is here because his wife has been diagnosed with vulvodynia. The poor girl has been suffering with vulva pain for around 10 years now, and I’ve been by her side through the pain and tears and doctors misunderstandings the whole way, and we’re both exhausted and terrified by the whole experience.

I’m sure a lot …

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Had this for 5 years, looking for people who understand

Sat Oct 06, 2018 9:46 pm by blackberrie

Hey all. I'm really struggling to find anyone in real life who can really understand what I'm going through. I've had vestibulodynia for 5 years now and I'm single. Obviously it has completely affected how I approach dating and sex and the fact that I can't really talk to people irl about it has made me feel very lonely. I've found that a lot of the women who have this problem are married and …

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6 year sufferer but I’ve found some hope

Wed Oct 10, 2018 1:33 am by Npage14

Hey, ladies! I’m new to this support group, I’ve thought about doing something like this for a while so I wanted to try this out! I’ve had vulvodynia for 6 years now, I am self diagnosed. I’m 20 now and the pain started when I had my first encounter with sexual contact when I was 14(I still remained a virgin though it was fingering). For a couple years the pain was so bad I could hardly …

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Hurting, Burning, Itching, and Worn Out

Thu Aug 09, 2018 10:55 pm by donnambr

This vulvodynia that I'm currently suffering with is so cruel. I hurt, I burn, I itch. When I first got this several years ago, before the internet, I though I was the only one with this awful disorder. Doctors couldn't figure it out. I felt so alone and devastated. Somehow it disappeared for a few years and now I'm suffering again. This dreaded V misery is back and I feel like I will be with …

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Hi girls! New in this forum

Fri Jul 13, 2018 2:31 pm by Gaby

Hi everyone!

Also joining the V club, Here my story:

It all started last year in september with a very bad throat infection for which i had to take antibiotics for about a month. This cause several yeast infections (candidia albicans).... one after the other!. I had them every month from october 2017 till march 2018. During this period i use an incredible amount of anti-fungal creams and …

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Newbie and feeling helpless

Wed Jul 11, 2018 1:52 pm by Taylor1

Hi, I found out a few weeks ago that I have this condition, started off at the end of April as a uti took strong antibiotics then got a thrush infection and now this.. My doctor has tried me on amitriptyline and gabipentin and both made me so poorly I couldn't take it plus I have seen what long use of these drugs has done to my mom for pain and its not good. I am using coconut oil which does …

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I'm new to this forum and would love some advice! :)

Tue Jun 05, 2018 4:13 am by anikita

Hi lovely gals!

I'm honestly hoping to get any bit of advice anyone might have to offer. I go from bouts of sobbing hysterically in my boyfriend's arms to feeling confident that I can beat this.

I haven't been actually diagnosed with vulvodynia but EVERYTHING under the sun has come back negative. I started having sex 4 years ago after starting Lo Loestrin, with my first and current boyfriend …

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Saginil gel, acupuncture and manual desensitisation

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Saginil gel, acupuncture and manual desensitisation

Post  JulesB on Sat Jan 17, 2015 2:40 pm

I have written about saginil gel acupuncture and manual desensitisation in other posts, but I thought it was worth a post of its own. Saginil was actually recommended to me by my GP. Coconut oil soothed while on there but did nothing to take away the pain, steroid creams worked for a while but then began to burn and make it worse; lignocaine and hyalofemme cream just stung. I just said to my GP one day "with all medical advancements we have made, I cannot believe that no one has made something that I can just put on there to ease the pain!". Her first response wasn't very helpful - that most of the scientists are men and they don't care about vulvodynia. But then she suggested saginil gel. She told me one of her patients had had vulvodynia for years then, when on holiday in Italy, found this topical gel that was designed just for vulvodynia, so she tried it and boom was better in a matter of days. I checked it out online and there were some glowing testaments, but also, as with all these things, it didn't work for everyone. I discovered you could buy it online direct from the manufacturer, Epitech, but expensive and very expensive on the post. You can pay by PayPal so currency isn't a problem. It is not classed as a medicine! Rather as a food for special medical purposes (due to the plant based natural ingredients), which is why it can be bought online without a prescription. There is also an intimate wash to go with it and cannulae and ovules for internal use. My pain area was in the horseshoe shape, posterior to the vaginal opening and only external, so I thought, I'll give it a go. It sat in my drawer for several weeks before I plucked up courage try it, having lost all confidence in topical preparations - you see, although the active ingredients (anti-inflammatory and reduce the hyperactivity of the nerves) are plant based there are some other ingredients that are considered nasties e.g methyl paraben. But one day I decided to give it a go. I put a very small amount on a very small area and waited - no stinging. So that night I put a good blob over the whole area of pain. In the morning I actually did notice an appreciable reduction in the pain level - at last! So i continued to use it twice a day, as per the instructions, and my pain gradually and steadily decreased, not as quickly as a matter of days, but over several weeks, until I considered myself no longer in pain but in slight discomfort. Pain could still be provoked by touch, but day to day living was now bearable. At that point I started acupuncture to really work on damping down those over-reactive nerves (in combination with amitriptylene, which helped but not fully) - the acu and amitriptyline work in tandem to calm down those nerves, as does manual desensitisation (stroke the painful area with coconut oil or an oil based lube, starting with only a couple of very gentle strokes and gradually building up the duration and pressure to retrain the nerves to accept touch as touch and not pain). I can finally have lovely intercourse with my hubby again! So, in summary, I recommend trying saginil gel, if you can afford it. As for the other things like acupuncture and manual desensitisation - the science makes sense, so why not give them a try - they make not work for you, but they can't harm you or make you worse (providing the acupuncturist is properly qualified - I have western acu, administered by a GP who trained in acupuncture). My acupuncturist warned me that I may feel a bit worse after the first few sessions then things should start to improve, but I just felt a benefit from the start - I feel so relaxed afterwards I still go for monthly "top up" treatments.

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Post  JulesB on Sat Jan 17, 2015 3:34 pm

Oh, forgot to say, because I assumed everyone must be doing this: do nothing to aggravate it? For me, this meant:
No exercise
Kneeling on seats
No baths
Only organic, natural body washes and shampoos in shower (stuff runs down)
Wash that area only with a soothing oil or bland ointment e.g. Coconut oil, Diprobase ointment.
No sex
Take anti-inflammatory and skin repairing supplements (omega 3, 6, 7 and 9; turmeric, zinc, calcium citrate, vit E, vit D, B vits, co-enzyme Q10, hyaluronic acid)
Low oxalate diet
No tight clothes
No knickers (when at home and when not having period)
Wash clothes with hypoallergenic detergents
Use only organic non-bleached cotton panti pads and sanitary towels
No tampons
Keep lubed all the time (I use coconut oil)

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Post  yoginimom on Fri Jan 23, 2015 4:13 pm

what all is in the saginil gel? I'd be curious to try that one, but i'm always really leery of trying anything new that may make things worse.

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Post  JulesB on Fri Jan 23, 2015 8:11 pm

It contains substances that are naturally found in plants and other foods or our own bodies that have an anti inflammatory action and restore normal mucocutaneous function and lubrication and regulate nerve activity. These are: adelmidrol (a precursor to palmitoylethanolamide), hyaluronic acid (aka sodium hyaluronate), phytosphingosine and quercetin. If you are interested in the science of palmivethanolamide see: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3500919/
It also has vitamin E, which some women with vulvodynia have reported soothing with topical application, and castor oil. Other ingredients:
Noveon® AA-1 Polycarbophil - gives the gel excellent bioadhesive properties (clings to the skin cells)
Sodium hydroxide - loads of creams have this to adjust the PH, but it is caustic soda which is a a skin irritant, so I am usual very dubious of creams that have this in
Phenethyl alcohol - found in a variety of essential oils
Methylparaben - a paraben commonly used in cosmetics, etc. it is a fungicide and anti bacterial agent so extends the shelf life of products. There has been a lot of controversy about the use of paragons in recent years, hence lots of "green" products declaring they are paraben free.

I have no idea what will sooth and what will irritate me. I assumed that only natural products such as coconut oil and sweet almond oil were all that I could tolerate. So, as I said, I delayed trying the saginil, but I am so pleased I did in the end. You will find some stories on the internet proclaiming instant pain relief after use of saginil gel. As I said, it took longer with me, but it was definitely a factor in reducing my pain. Now I am "better" I am experimenting with lubricants because I now have vaginal dryness due to menopause (the joys of being a woman!) - so called natural water based lubes and vaginal moisturisers such as Yes and Sylk sting me immediately (whereas others say these were the only things that didn't sting them!), whereas WooHoo seems ok (from my single tentative test of it). For the moment, I am sticking with the oil based lubes: pure coconut oil or Yes oil based - my dermatologist told me Yes oil based has nothing in it but natural oils and she usually finds that oil based lubes are tolerated by those of us with vulvodynia whereas the water based one are not. I shall continue my investigations!

Good luck if you do try Saginil gel - I hope it works for you.

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Post  yoginimom on Fri Jan 23, 2015 9:37 pm

Thanks! I will have to ask my Dr about it. Can you buy it over the counter? Or do you need a percription?

I've also had really good sucess with acupunture. I also started taking lions mane because it's supposed to help with nerves. So i appreciate your posts about your findings.

I think the saginil may be my next thing to try. Thanks for your input!

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Post  JulesB on Sat Jan 24, 2015 10:06 am

You cannot get it in this country (why on earth not!). You can get it direct from the manufacturer in Italy from their website at: http://shop.epitech.it
You can also get a wash that I use (around external labia, not internal) and oral tablets (v costly) containing the palmitoylethanolamide in oral form. I took the oral tablets too - before the saginil in fact - I am more willing to eat these supplements than apply them on my lady bits - not sure how much they helped though. You no not need a prescription and there is no problem with ordering from abroad because saginil is not classed as a medicine, it is classed as a food suppliment because the active ingreidents all all from natural food sources. You pay by PayPal on the site, so no problems with currency. The site is in English, as are the instructions that come with saginil. I have found them very reliable with the package arriving by FedEx after only a few days.

Isn't the acupuncture great? Do you have oriental or western acupuncture? I have western - she sticks the needles in my sacrum, wires them up and I have pulses of electricity zapping me for 30 mins - very effective.

I do think, as my dermatologist said, that it is worth going all out with this condition - find what works for you (or at least doesn't aggravate it) and do it all! Me: manual desensitisation; acupuncture; pelvic floor exercises (I can recommend a book); saginil gel; and a whole kitchen cupboard full of vitamins, minerals and other herbal supplements.

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Post  yoginimom on Sun Jan 25, 2015 12:46 am

Looks pretty promising, i found a study on the main ingrediant.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24051946

Thanks for the info! I'm going ot try it.

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Post  JulesB on Sun Jan 25, 2015 8:27 am

Yes there does seem to be scientific evidence that palmitoylethanolamide works well in reducing neuropathic pain. I hope saginil works for you. Let us know on this forum. It certainly worked for me and another of my GPs patients who declared it had changed her life. I am sure you, like me, try not to get too excited by a possible miracle cure - we know, with this condition that what works for one person doesn't work for another. But I sincerely hope it helps to relieve your pain, and if it does, others will be brave enough to try it.

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Post  yoginimom on Mon Jan 26, 2015 5:24 am

Looks like they don't ship to North America, and no one over here makes it. Big time bummer. Sad

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Post  JulesB on Mon Jan 26, 2015 9:29 am

Have you tried emailing Epitech? They have a good customer support - they always reply to my emails fairly soon. Perhaps they can give you the price of shipping to Northern America ( brace yourself!)
customers-service@epitech.it

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Post  Erick96 on Wed Sep 23, 2015 8:59 am

Thanks for this wonderful post on acupuncture. This is a holistic treatment and getting popular nowadays because if it’s medication less healing. Last week my grandmother visited acupuncture meadowvale clinic and they have suggested her to take 4 sittings for her leg pain treatment.

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Post  mary jane on Fri Jun 23, 2017 5:53 pm

Thank you so much for this post !! I found the product on amazon and will be ordering it soon !!!
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