a euro product like neogyn- but different

hey i forgot to tell you all something-
so neogyn- not liking as much- it doesnt do anything
but there is something with similar ingredients that some women are swearing by- sold in europe. I just ordered these 2 products- kinda exp in us money $150 (with shipping) us (110 euro)

but check it out-


its called saginil, and also a supplement called Pelvilen
I ordered it- 110 erup= about 148 usd
ill let you know how it goes- but these ladies swear it totally helped
and you can use it also when using estrogen
worth a try i guess
than in their search type in Pelvilen

website-
http://www.ergomax.nl/home/?_globalsearch=saginil

there should be a link at the top to translate to english

here is also a youtube with a lady talking about her experience with these 2 products (hopefully these links work here)
Im only going to try a SMALL area where it still bugs me and see if it helps.... basically to just TEST it out

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LoZtqYFJcY4

http://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT01420510


clinical trial with saginil

I'm struggling to find any information about what's in the saginil except local anaesthetic, could you post a list of the ingredients on here once you get it? There's not much about it at all online so be careful and check all the ingredients before you apply it.

you have to go to the site and translate it to english
in the gel
Water, Glycerin, adelmidrol, peg-40 hydrogenated castor oil, propyleneglycol, acrilaat cross polymer, Tocopheryl acetate, polyvinyl malted, fenetylalcohol, sodium hydroxide, hyaluronic acid, methyl parabens, phytosphingosine, quercetin.

and in the cannulae
Water, Glycerin, adelmidrol, propyleneglycol, peg-40 hydrogenated castor oil, Carbomer, Tocopheryl acetate, triethanolamine, polyvinyl malted, fenetylalcohol, hyaluronic acid, methyl parabens, phytosphingosine.

Neogyn

Water (Aqua), Octyldodecanol, Decyl Oleate, Glyceryl Stearate, Propanediol, Glycerin, Stearic Acid, Wheat Germ Oil (Triticum Vulgare), Ceteareth-20, Cetyl Alcohol, Borage Seed Oil (Borago Officinalis), Dimethicone, Glycosphingolipids, Cutaneous Lysate, Myreth-3 Myristate, Ceteareth-12, Tocopheryl Acetate, Cetearyl Alcohol, Cetyl Palmitate Carbomer, Triethanolamine, BHT, Disodium EDTA, Phenoxyethanol, Caprylyl Glycol.

about adelmidrol

Adelmidrol, a palmitoylethanolamide analogue, reduces chronic inflammation in a carrageenin-granuloma model in rats.
De Filippis D, D'Amico A, Cinelli MP, Esposito G, Di Marzo V, Iuvone T.
Source
Università"Federico II", Napoles, Italy.
Abstract
Palmitoylethanolamide (PEA) and some of its analogues have shown great efficacy in the treatment of pain and inflammation. Adelmidrol - the International Nonproprietary Name (INN) of the di-amide derivative of azelaic acid - is one of these analogues. The anti-inflammatory and analgesic effects of PEA and adelmidrol are hypothesized to be mediated, at least in part, by mast cell down-modulation. Mast cell mediators released at early stage of the inflammatory process drive the inflammatory reaction to chronicity as it happens in X-carrageenin-induced granulomatous tissue formation. In the present study, the choice of testing adelmidrol depends upon the physicochemical properties of the compound, i.e. the amphipatic feature, that make it more easily soluble than PEA. In this study, we investigated the effect of adelmidrol on granuloma formation induced by lambda-carrageenin-soaked sponge implant in rats. Our results show that the local administration of the compound under study significantly decreases weight and neo-angiogenesis in granulomatous tissue. The anti-inflammatory effect was due to the modulation of mast cells degranulation, as shown by histological analysis and by the inhibition of the release of several pro-inflammatory and pro-angiogenic enzymes (e.g. iNOS, chymase and metalloproteinase MMP-9), and mediators (e.g. nitric oxide and TNF-alpha). The results indicate that adelmidrol, given locally, may represent a potential therapeutic tool in controlling chronic inflammation.

PMID: 18429935 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

is that the gel has prop glycol
but- neogyn seems to irritate some people and does not have it

so thats why im testing it on a small area first

Melissa777,

Thank you for this information. I was just wondering how this would work since the gel is inserted inside. I suffer from VVS and, as in most Vulvodynia, the pain is mostly on the outside (the vulva).
Do you have any information on this?
Also, do you have any updates on how your treatment is going?
I would much rather order these products since ordering neogyn is ridiculously expensive to order to Europe.

Thank you, and best of luck.

i ordered it, and tried it out for 2 days, it only irritated me... guess the prop glycol in it is to blame

I'm sorry.. I know how sickening it is to keep hoping something will work.
And the neogyn didn't work either?
I keep reading all these testimonials about how it helps but i'm not sure i believe them.